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Re: Killed a noob botter

Post by cinos » Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:51 pm

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Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:12 pm
Dude, he's 11 give him a break. He didn't purposefully go out of his way to ruin the game he just wanted to share a funny story.
Talking to maxblue specifically, doubt those paragraphs came from an eleven year old.
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Re: Killed a noob botter

Post by troopas » Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:31 pm

cinos wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:51 pm
troopas wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:12 pm
Dude, he's 11 give him a break. He didn't purposefully go out of his way to ruin the game he just wanted to share a funny story.
Talking to maxblue specifically, doubt those paragraphs came from an eleven year old.
Still no reason to go attack someone just to be "right" they just made 1 mistake.
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Re: Killed a noob botter

Post by cinos » Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:09 pm

troopas wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:31 pm
cinos wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:51 pm
troopas wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:12 pm
Dude, he's 11 give him a break. He didn't purposefully go out of his way to ruin the game he just wanted to share a funny story.
Talking to maxblue specifically, doubt those paragraphs came from an eleven year old.
Still no reason to go attack someone just to be "right" they just made 1 mistake.
Max didn't make "one" mistake, he is excusing botting, that is essentially like, mistake+, dude.
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Re: Killed a noob botter

Post by troopas » Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:48 pm

cinos wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:09 pm
troopas wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:31 pm
cinos wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:51 pm


Talking to maxblue specifically, doubt those paragraphs came from an eleven year old.
Still no reason to go attack someone just to be "right" they just made 1 mistake.
Max didn't make "one" mistake, he is excusing botting, that is essentially like, mistake+, dude.
Image This is the same long response I'd expect from a dream stan "educating" people from making jokes


The saddest part you BOTH were mostly agreeing(Botting is bad and shouldn't be allowed at all) but neither of you could see it. The dude literally even said he doesn't know how to record effectively even if he tried so there's no reason even trying to argue in the first place. Then you followed it up with an accusation of botting which you cannot prove whilst also providing your OWN video (???) of someone botting. What is the point of that? What are you trying to prove doing that, that you are better than him because you have a better computer than him?
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Re: Killed a noob botter

Post by cinos » Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:30 am

troopas wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:48 pm
cinos wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:09 pm
troopas wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:31 pm


Still no reason to go attack someone just to be "right" they just made 1 mistake.
Max didn't make "one" mistake, he is excusing botting, that is essentially like, mistake+, dude.
Image This is the same long response I'd expect from a dream stan "educating" people from making jokes


The saddest part you BOTH were mostly agreeing(Botting is bad and shouldn't be allowed at all) but neither of you could see it. The dude literally even said he doesn't know how to record effectively even if he tried so there's no reason even trying to argue in the first place. Then you followed it up with an accusation of botting which you cannot prove whilst also providing your OWN video (???) of someone botting. What is the point of that? What are you trying to prove doing that, that you are better than him because you have a better computer than him?
I'm going to remind you that he tried to make botting seem less bad than it actually is, anyone who actually tried to pull that shιτ is not worth my patience.

Also, dream stan? Kind of a different boat when we're talking about the stability of a game and that guy you actually thought was alright despite turning speedrunning into a joke...so, yeah.
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Re: Killed a noob botter

Post by MaxBlue01 » Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:37 pm

Ok we get it. You like reporting botters. You like playing small cop. Meanwhile, i'm trying my best to propose usefull suggestions that will actually improve the game (in other threads obviously).

If you are just going to ignore all that we are writting, maybe stop posting in forums. We keep saying important and related stuff and all your response is "i'm not gonna bother reading it". (and it's not "nonsense" as you think it is). At NO POINT i ever said anything about botting as "good" or "legit" (and no, i'm not giving you the chance to tell me where i said something like that, because as you demonstrated before, you are in the habit of forging whole sentances that will be convenient for you). I insited multiple times that it's not morally right. My point was to not "just" focus on botters, there are others things to pay more attention to. I don't see you telling me how exactly what i said is incorrect in any way.

Do you deny all botting actually does is "merging" the grinding time into the same time-frame? (like going from 1h grinding per day to "botting" for 10 hours for the same results).

Do you deny the ONLY real advantage for botting is letting the player afk while "botting"? aka personal time convenience?

Do you deny botters gain exp/coins SLOWER than active grinders? (since botters can't walk toward ennemies)

Do you deny the "unfair (material) advantage" is negligeable/slightly inferior at EQUAL PLAYING TIMES? (especially if the "normal" player is also spamming the same skill, LIKE THE BOTTER). What's the ACTUAL difference between a lvl 100 player who was botting for days / few weeks, and a lvl 100 player who play regularly for several months / arund a year (like few hours per day)? (obviously other than the grinding method). (assuming both players have the same grinding method (grinding squishers, then crabs, then socrpee, then...) and have the same general stats + class).

Do you deny there is a lot more important problems than botting right now? (like other exploits, like the magic shield grenade jump, which i'm fairly certain you have at least heard about it. Not accusing you of doing it, though i do have some suspicions, knowing toxic people like you, who always deny what feels convenient for them).

Do you deny money isn't a problem at all at YOUR level? (lvl 130+)



No, i'm not "defending" botting. I'm only stating FACTS regarding the game's mechanics, and how they are related to botting.

"he tried to make botting seem less bad than it actually is". So for you, hacking the game to gain 1M emeralds is is as important as just botting? Are you going to say you support those players? Pretty sure even in real life, there are different punishments for different crimes. Or are you saying people who hack 1M emeralds only get banned for 1-2 weeks like the botters?

Games like team fortress 2 take botting problems very seriously BECAUSE it's already a GOOD game. Right now, Eliatopia still have A LOT of work to be done, and i'm not going to waste my time and effort on small fry like botters (which again are NOT worth it). Feel free to waste your time reporting botters (after all, you can afford it. You are rich as heck, so why do you care about making the game better? You already have everything you want.). But i want to actually help players to play an actually BETTER game. And no, reporting botters won't help me doing that.

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Re: Killed a noob botter

Post by cinos » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:42 am

MaxBlue01 wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:37 pm
Games like team fortress 2 take botting problems very seriously BECAUSE it's already a GOOD game. Right now, Eliatopia still have A LOT of work to be done, and i'm not going to waste my time and effort on small fry like botters (which again are NOT worth it). Feel free to waste your time reporting botters (after all, you can afford it. You are rich as heck, so why do you care about making the game better? You already have everything you want.). But i want to actually help players to play an actually BETTER game. And no, reporting botters won't help me doing that.
It's so easy to assume I just have everything I want. My game number is so huge, right? I must be a super rich pro gamer by now...except I'm not. You're out here somehow trying to convince me that botting is not a real problem (yes btw everything you have said so far is apologist nonsense and is not worth wasting reply space for, it is babble, I see literally no reason for you to defend it, which you are, unless you are one...so go post some footage for me).

For the record, you claim Eliatopia has a lot of work to be done. Funny, that's what I said a year ago when I first joined, but you know what the difference is? I joined before pvp was accessible, before a dodge roll was added, you joined after global xp...pretty big difference. See, personally speaking, Eliatopia had reached "good" status at around april 21', and lost it around the time global xp got added. Sure, it still has those traits I personally enjoy, but global is downright coercive as a mechanic...
My point? A lot of the work done to make the game actually good HAD been done, it has just degraded. There is no excuse to not report botters, and I find your points to be laughable.
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