Why I do not support poison zone nerf.

[CrazyVanilla]

Cap, and also that's a total crap save since if you were actually smart you WOULD be supporting a droids buff, instead of pretending it's a zone problem.

ALSO that is quite amusing, you spent cash on another stat reset after whipmaster didn't work out and YOU are making a point about P2W? This was never about p2w, this was a case about balance, was it not? Actually wouldn't it be more P2W to be completely invincible because no poison exists? You'd just be able to shill out a good set of armor, and now nobody would be able to touch you. Quite the case you made CV, pretending a cheap pellet with an expensive rune is even close to P2W, while also supporting shilling out cash for h5 p5 f5 e5 i5 sets to come close in terms of pvp, plus essentially having wagies do the grinding for you, but really that's a different subject you supported in the past, JUST mentioning it.
Unironically you are a massive hypocrite if you're trying to make this about P2W, when almost all of your suggestions are P2W. Why did you even bother? You might've had an argument, now all I see is someone mad his 30 dollar set didn't do well against someone who didn't pay a single fvcking dime. Cry about it, that is infact the exact opposite of p2w, since I beat you for free, lol. Or are the lower class not allowed to beat you? Does it anger you perhaps? Is it frustrating that someone who makes less money than you is able to wipe the floor with you?

What's cap? That I can't grind droids perfectly fine as warrior? With rage I 1 tap them with ninja slash lol. But like I said, I don't like the droids design either, however if you literally remove droids from everything I've said and replace it with guradians, zone is still a problem lol.

How did whipmaster not work out? I love whipmaster, I am the one that made it actually a viable class lol, and I was the only high level whipmaster aside from sadom for a long time. I switched to warrior because I got bored of being whipmaster since I had been the class for quite a while (for me at least, I reset a lot, i've been every class multiple times). Also, I didn't even buy emeralds with IRL money to reset.

To answer your question, yes it would be more P2W if poison didn't exist, but again, you must have missed the part where I said I don't want to change the poison rune at all, and I agree it is needed. Also, not really sure what "supporting shilling out cash for h5 p5 f5 e5 i5 sets to come close in terms of pvp" means, I actually don't even like resistance, and I certainly don't like spending $250mil on a set, lol.

Please point out 1 suggestion that I have made that is actually P2W. You say this all the time and I literally haven't made any that I can remember lol.

If I were to sell my set, it would be worth much more than 30 dollars. And I didn't pay 30 dollars for it, so idk what you are talking about. Also my set does perfectly fine, I am very happy with it. Here you go again, keep saying it I guess, maybe one day someone will believe that you "kicked my butt" and "whiped the floor with me" in pvp. But to be fair to you, I don't like the fact your 150k gun is just as powerful as my $50m Havoc, but that's not personal, I don't like it no matter who is using the gun, because it's not in any way balanced.

I don't see how my out-of-game income has anything to do with this, and I don't even know what yours is, so perhaps you make more then me, truly I have no idea, and no desire to know, because I couldn't care less. I'm playing a video game.

You tell me to cry about it, yet you are the one making everything a personal insult and trying to boost your ego. You seem like the one whos crying.

[cinos]

Please point out 1 suggestion that I have made that is actually P2W. You say this all the time and I literally haven't made any that I can remember lol.

Dunno man I think teleportation was a pretty shιτ suggestion, I only really didn't mind due to the financial situation the game was in, I can still blame you for suggesting a feature that lets you skip the pvp or caves by just...paying money. Good thing people like you exist to give the game funding though, lol.

I don't see how my out-of-game income has anything to do with this, and I don't even know what yours is, so perhaps you make more then me, truly I have no idea, and no desire to know, because I couldn't care less. I'm playing a video game.

You tell me to cry about it, yet you are the one making everything a personal insult and trying to boost your ego. You seem like the one whos crying.

I make less than you cause spitter is, GASP, not actually reliable for grinding, lmao who could've guessed, my build's just a gimmick :\

I'm not insulting you to boost my ego, I'm insulting you cause I think you're a prick. I don't owe you my respect after some of the things you've said (note: not Elia related things, that'd just be silly). It's entirely unrelated, I know, but it ain't ego, that's for sure. You're the one reaching rn, but here's your explanation.

Atleast you agree that poison resistance was a giant mistake, though with no understanding as for why zone exists to circumvent it. Personally I'd just make poison unblockable and remove zone, only problem is that it's existed for so long that it's not possible without essentially meaning millions were spent on nothing.

[TheWood]

The problem is not that you are ABLE to use just a poison pellet to grind or pvp, it's that you are able to do it at the highest level of gameplay. You SHOULD NOT be able to grind saw guardians (meant for level 100+ player) with a level 20 gun and 1 artillery. You SHOULD NOT be able to deal guaranteed 45 poison damage to someone with full P4 resistance in PvP.

The poison-only build does not have to go extinct, but it should be lowered to more of a mid-tier strategy (closer to 40 poison damage rather than the 60-70 it does now) because of how cheap and skill-less it is to use, and because of how currently you can skip right to the end-game once you get 1million coins basically.

No matter how you put it, you won't satisfy everyone. Creating a rune limit on low weapons would affect mainly low lvl players and balance chances both in PvE and PvP for similar player lvls.

Why do you bother? CV hates it when he can't outlevel things, that's why he hates the balancing rune afterall, and why he never offers solutions besides nerfing it. No "buffing the enemy", no "nerfing zone but adding poison to the drone to have it be as useful as it once was", just "nerf poison because I'm too lazy to dodge, oh and also add a miniscule soft damage boost to gunman, which I will mitigate with warrior defense like the time poison resistance was broken".

Sorry, physically there is no way to dodge 514 bullets per minute. When you're any other class than a gunner you need to get close to your enemy to deal good damage. Did you know that dodge roll has a cooldown?

[TheWood]

All resistances were a mistake fr. It would have been much better if they had not been added at all.

[CrazyVanilla]

Dunno man I think teleportation was a pretty shιτ suggestion, I only really didn't mind due to the financial situation the game was in, I can still blame you for suggesting a feature that lets you skip the pvp or caves by just...paying money. Good thing people like you exist to give the game funding though, lol.

Yeah, try again. Teleportation was not my suggestion bozo, I've told you this at least 3 times and you still say it lol. I know you struggle with reading above a first grade level but c'mon, you can do better kiddo.

At least you agree that poison resistance was a giant mistake, though with no understanding as for why zone exists to circumvent it. Personally I'd just make poison unblockable and remove zone, only problem is that it's existed for so long that it's not possible without essentially meaning millions were spent on nothing.

All resistance was a giant mistake, but it's too late to change it.

I have no understanding as for why zone exists? I am the reason it exists, lol. I was the one that got poison buffed for cowboys in pvp because Robby did not want to raise their damage, but I did not suggest for it to be this op. When pzone first came out, P3 was max, now there is P5, as things progress, balancing is needed, it's part of the game.

You've successfully ignored 90% of what I've said about pzone just to try and personally attack me, which could not be less relevant to the actual issue here. Congratulations!

Also to add about Geralts rune limit based on level requirement suggestion, I don't think that'd work at all. What about all the weapons already upgraded past the "limit"? I would assume the limit for a pellet spitter would be like p2 or something, so what happens to all the P4 and P5 pellet spitters out there, and other upgraded weapons too? Then Robby can never make fast guns again or else we will be in this exact same situation? This would be a very indirect band-aid fix that will just lead us back to the same situation we are in now eventually. Gotta fix the actual problem.

Sorry, physically there is no way to dodge 514 bullets per minute. When you're any other class than a gunner you need to get close to your enemy to deal good damage. Did you know that dodge roll has a cooldown?

Being able to fully dodge a pellet spitter is like trying to dodge ninja slash lol. Literally if you just move your mouse in a circle the gun is so fast you will hit SOMETHING. It's impossible to fully dodge a constant stream of bullets that outrange every other class where their direction can be changed simply by moving the players mouse without needing to stop shooting.

Perhaps just a reload time for guns then?

[Fav]

Dunno man I think teleportation was a pretty shιτ suggestion, I only really didn't mind due to the financial situation the game was in, I can still blame you for suggesting a feature that lets you skip the pvp or caves by just...paying money. Good thing people like you exist to give the game funding though, lol.

Yeah, try again. Teleportation was not my suggestion bozo, I've told you this at least 3 times and you still say it lol. I know you struggle with reading above a first grade level but c'mon, you can do better kiddo.

At least you agree that poison resistance was a giant mistake, though with no understanding as for why zone exists to circumvent it. Personally I'd just make poison unblockable and remove zone, only problem is that it's existed for so long that it's not possible without essentially meaning millions were spent on nothing.

All resistance was a giant mistake, but it's too late to change it.

I have no understanding as for why zone exists? I am the reason it exists, lol. I was the one that got poison buffed for cowboys in pvp because Robby did not want to raise their damage, but I did not suggest for it to be this op. When pzone first came out, P3 was max, now there is P5, as things progress, balancing is needed, it's part of the game.

You've successfully ignored 90% of what I've said about pzone just to try and personally attack me, which could not be less relevant to the actual issue here. Congratulations!

Also to add about Geralts rune limit based on level requirement suggestion, I don't think that'd work at all. What about all the weapons already upgraded past the "limit"? I would assume the limit for a pellet spitter would be like p2 or something, so what happens to all the P4 and P5 pellet spitters out there, and other upgraded weapons too? Then Robby can never make fast guns again or else we will be in this exact same situation? This would be a very indirect band-aid fix that will just lead us back to the same situation we are in now eventually. Gotta fix the actual problem.

Sorry, physically there is no way to dodge 514 bullets per minute. When you're any other class than a gunner you need to get close to your enemy to deal good damage. Did you know that dodge roll has a cooldown?

Being able to fully dodge a pellet spitter is like trying to dodge ninja slash lol. Literally if you just move your mouse in a circle the gun is so fast you will hit SOMETHING. It's impossible to fully dodge a constant stream of bullets that outrange every other class where their direction can be changed simply by moving the players mouse without needing to stop shooting.

Perhaps just a reload time for guns then?

I agree I agree I agree

Cinos knows that its too op , he is defending it just cuz without the pellet p5 whatever he would be nothing.

[cinos]

Dunno man I think teleportation was a pretty shιτ suggestion, I only really didn't mind due to the financial situation the game was in, I can still blame you for suggesting a feature that lets you skip the pvp or caves by just...paying money. Good thing people like you exist to give the game funding though, lol.

Yeah, try again. Teleportation was not my suggestion bozo, I've told you this at least 3 times and you still say it lol. I know you struggle with reading above a first grade level but c'mon, you can do better kiddo.

At least you agree that poison resistance was a giant mistake, though with no understanding as for why zone exists to circumvent it. Personally I'd just make poison unblockable and remove zone, only problem is that it's existed for so long that it's not possible without essentially meaning millions were spent on nothing.

All resistance was a giant mistake, but it's too late to change it.

I have no understanding as for why zone exists? I am the reason it exists, lol. I was the one that got poison buffed for cowboys in pvp because Robby did not want to raise their damage, but I did not suggest for it to be this op. When pzone first came out, P3 was max, now there is P5, as things progress, balancing is needed, it's part of the game.

You've successfully ignored 90% of what I've said about pzone just to try and personally attack me, which could not be less relevant to the actual issue here. Congratulations!

Also to add about Geralts rune limit based on level requirement suggestion, I don't think that'd work at all. What about all the weapons already upgraded past the "limit"? I would assume the limit for a pellet spitter would be like p2 or something, so what happens to all the P4 and P5 pellet spitters out there, and other upgraded weapons too? Then Robby can never make fast guns again or else we will be in this exact same situation? This would be a very indirect band-aid fix that will just lead us back to the same situation we are in now eventually. Gotta fix the actual problem.

Sorry, physically there is no way to dodge 514 bullets per minute. When you're any other class than a gunner you need to get close to your enemy to deal good damage. Did you know that dodge roll has a cooldown?

Being able to fully dodge a pellet spitter is like trying to dodge ninja slash lol. Literally if you just move your mouse in a circle the gun is so fast you will hit SOMETHING. It's impossible to fully dodge a constant stream of bullets that outrange every other class where their direction can be changed simply by moving the players mouse without needing to stop shooting.

Perhaps just a reload time for guns then?

I agree I agree I agree

Cinos knows that its too op , he is defending it just cuz without the pellet p5 whatever he would be nothing.

says the macro user trying to hide the fact flashlight said he'd ban him in an instant, lmao.

no really, what do you think about that? You did not reply after he said that, lol

[Fav]

Yeah, try again. Teleportation was not my suggestion bozo, I've told you this at least 3 times and you still say it lol. I know you struggle with reading above a first grade level but c'mon, you can do better kiddo.



All resistance was a giant mistake, but it's too late to change it.

I have no understanding as for why zone exists? I am the reason it exists, lol. I was the one that got poison buffed for cowboys in pvp because Robby did not want to raise their damage, but I did not suggest for it to be this op. When pzone first came out, P3 was max, now there is P5, as things progress, balancing is needed, it's part of the game.

You've successfully ignored 90% of what I've said about pzone just to try and personally attack me, which could not be less relevant to the actual issue here. Congratulations!

Also to add about Geralts rune limit based on level requirement suggestion, I don't think that'd work at all. What about all the weapons already upgraded past the "limit"? I would assume the limit for a pellet spitter would be like p2 or something, so what happens to all the P4 and P5 pellet spitters out there, and other upgraded weapons too? Then Robby can never make fast guns again or else we will be in this exact same situation? This would be a very indirect band-aid fix that will just lead us back to the same situation we are in now eventually. Gotta fix the actual problem.


Being able to fully dodge a pellet spitter is like trying to dodge ninja slash lol. Literally if you just move your mouse in a circle the gun is so fast you will hit SOMETHING. It's impossible to fully dodge a constant stream of bullets that outrange every other class where their direction can be changed simply by moving the players mouse without needing to stop shooting.

Perhaps just a reload time for guns then?

I agree I agree I agree

Cinos knows that its too op , he is defending it just cuz without the pellet p5 whatever he would be nothing.

says the macro user trying to hide the fact flashlight said he'd ban him in an instant, lmao.

no really, what do you think about that? You did not reply after he said that, lol

Bruh read the other sections. I replied to his other thread and made an own thread in suggestions.
Id never use macros if this was as wished

[shekelstein]

Dunno man I think teleportation was a pretty shιτ suggestion, I only really didn't mind due to the financial situation the game was in, I can still blame you for suggesting a feature that lets you skip the pvp or caves by just...paying money. Good thing people like you exist to give the game funding though, lol.

Yeah, try again. Teleportation was not my suggestion bozo, I've told you this at least 3 times and you still say it lol. I know you struggle with reading above a first grade level but c'mon, you can do better kiddo.

At least you agree that poison resistance was a giant mistake, though with no understanding as for why zone exists to circumvent it. Personally I'd just make poison unblockable and remove zone, only problem is that it's existed for so long that it's not possible without essentially meaning millions were spent on nothing.

All resistance was a giant mistake, but it's too late to change it.

I have no understanding as for why zone exists? I am the reason it exists, lol. I was the one that got poison buffed for cowboys in pvp because Robby did not want to raise their damage, but I did not suggest for it to be this op. When pzone first came out, P3 was max, now there is P5, as things progress, balancing is needed, it's part of the game.

You've successfully ignored 90% of what I've said about pzone just to try and personally attack me, which could not be less relevant to the actual issue here. Congratulations!

Also to add about Geralts rune limit based on level requirement suggestion, I don't think that'd work at all. What about all the weapons already upgraded past the "limit"? I would assume the limit for a pellet spitter would be like p2 or something, so what happens to all the P4 and P5 pellet spitters out there, and other upgraded weapons too? Then Robby can never make fast guns again or else we will be in this exact same situation? This would be a very indirect band-aid fix that will just lead us back to the same situation we are in now eventually. Gotta fix the actual problem.

Sorry, physically there is no way to dodge 514 bullets per minute. When you're any other class than a gunner you need to get close to your enemy to deal good damage. Did you know that dodge roll has a cooldown?

Being able to fully dodge a pellet spitter is like trying to dodge ninja slash lol. Literally if you just move your mouse in a circle the gun is so fast you will hit SOMETHING. It's impossible to fully dodge a constant stream of bullets that outrange every other class where their direction can be changed simply by moving the players mouse without needing to stop shooting.

Perhaps just a reload time for guns then?

I agree I agree I agree

Cinos knows that its too op , he is defending it just cuz without the pellet p5 whatever he would be nothing.

Oh gee, Fav wants to nerf the rune that gives free to win players a chance against fully maxed out sets. What a surprise. Actually tho, for Cinos' build to be successful, he also has to max res his set, otherwise he will be one shot by pretty much anything. Taking away poison will hurt class customizability and will allow people with maxed sets and low skill to win pvp easily. Suggesting to take away the only balancing rune is selfish and ignorant, because you want your guild's pay to win sets to win.

[cinos]

Yeah, try again. Teleportation was not my suggestion bozo, I've told you this at least 3 times and you still say it lol. I know you struggle with reading above a first grade level but c'mon, you can do better kiddo.



All resistance was a giant mistake, but it's too late to change it.

I have no understanding as for why zone exists? I am the reason it exists, lol. I was the one that got poison buffed for cowboys in pvp because Robby did not want to raise their damage, but I did not suggest for it to be this op. When pzone first came out, P3 was max, now there is P5, as things progress, balancing is needed, it's part of the game.

You've successfully ignored 90% of what I've said about pzone just to try and personally attack me, which could not be less relevant to the actual issue here. Congratulations!

Also to add about Geralts rune limit based on level requirement suggestion, I don't think that'd work at all. What about all the weapons already upgraded past the "limit"? I would assume the limit for a pellet spitter would be like p2 or something, so what happens to all the P4 and P5 pellet spitters out there, and other upgraded weapons too? Then Robby can never make fast guns again or else we will be in this exact same situation? This would be a very indirect band-aid fix that will just lead us back to the same situation we are in now eventually. Gotta fix the actual problem.


Being able to fully dodge a pellet spitter is like trying to dodge ninja slash lol. Literally if you just move your mouse in a circle the gun is so fast you will hit SOMETHING. It's impossible to fully dodge a constant stream of bullets that outrange every other class where their direction can be changed simply by moving the players mouse without needing to stop shooting.

Perhaps just a reload time for guns then?

I agree I agree I agree

Cinos knows that its too op , he is defending it just cuz without the pellet p5 whatever he would be nothing.

Oh gee, Fav wants to nerf the rune that gives free to win players a chance against fully maxed out sets. What a surprise. Actually tho, for Cinos' build to be successful, he also has to max res his set, otherwise he will be one shot by pretty much anything. Taking away poison will hurt class customizability and will allow people with maxed sets and low skill to win pvp easily. Suggesting to take away the only balancing rune is selfish and ignorant, because you want your guild's pay to win sets to win.

Even though ironically I'd do even better with some other ideas I've had in mind, but then it'd be "balanced" in his eyes aswell and it'd take away some of the fun.