Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

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Re: Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

Post by TheWood » Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:59 am

cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:44 am
TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:14 am
Hoard rain isn't difficult to dodge, it flies slowly and always falls at the same distance from the player. It can be difficult on a hill because it is small or if you have a ridiculous amount of health and defense with a pellet spitter and you have almost no dodge and always shoot. You were killed by the hoard because there was an invisible poison zone and each arrow from hoard did 58 poison damage to you, the amount of defense didn't make sense. That rain is hard to hit moving targets, for all arrows to hit a monster in pve the monster has to have a big hitbox and need to shoot very close, in pvp your opponent has to be inattentive to get rained out or be attacked at very close range. Bouncing rain is usually useless, only using at very close range on a monster with a big hitbox in pve makes it sometimes useful. In pvp it is a way to make the hill almost inaccessible. In normal pvp these two skills aren't very useful.
Uh, no?

Bounce rain ISN'T useful on the hill, that's why everyone uses homing arrows instead (you should know). I still believe this is for the best and will allow more variety for the archer class, rather than "use all your mp for one hoard, then spam homing arrow".
It seemed to me that if you put these yellow orbs all over the hill, a smart opponent won't go there.

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Re: Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

Post by cinos » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:00 am

TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:59 am
cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:44 am
TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:14 am
Hoard rain isn't difficult to dodge, it flies slowly and always falls at the same distance from the player. It can be difficult on a hill because it is small or if you have a ridiculous amount of health and defense with a pellet spitter and you have almost no dodge and always shoot. You were killed by the hoard because there was an invisible poison zone and each arrow from hoard did 58 poison damage to you, the amount of defense didn't make sense. That rain is hard to hit moving targets, for all arrows to hit a monster in pve the monster has to have a big hitbox and need to shoot very close, in pvp your opponent has to be inattentive to get rained out or be attacked at very close range. Bouncing rain is usually useless, only using at very close range on a monster with a big hitbox in pve makes it sometimes useful. In pvp it is a way to make the hill almost inaccessible. In normal pvp these two skills aren't very useful.
Uh, no?

Bounce rain ISN'T useful on the hill, that's why everyone uses homing arrows instead (you should know). I still believe this is for the best and will allow more variety for the archer class, rather than "use all your mp for one hoard, then spam homing arrow".
It seemed to me that if you put these yellow orbs all over the hill, a smart opponent won't go there.
Ya callin me dumb? Cause I believe those orbs never stopped me and I took the hill the anyway.
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Re: Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

Post by TheWood » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:02 am

cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:00 am
TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:59 am
cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:44 am


Uh, no?

Bounce rain ISN'T useful on the hill, that's why everyone uses homing arrows instead (you should know). I still believe this is for the best and will allow more variety for the archer class, rather than "use all your mp for one hoard, then spam homing arrow".
It seemed to me that if you put these yellow orbs all over the hill, a smart opponent won't go there.
Ya callin me dumb? Cause I believe those orbs never stopped me and I took the hill the anyway.
Absolutely not calling you, it's just that sometimes a couple of those balls can kill if you don't have 1k hp.

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Re: Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

Post by cinos » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:06 am

TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:02 am
cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:00 am
TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:59 am
It seemed to me that if you put these yellow orbs all over the hill, a smart opponent won't go there.
Ya callin me dumb? Cause I believe those orbs never stopped me and I took the hill the anyway.
Absolutely not calling you, it's just that sometimes a couple of those balls can kill if you don't have 1k hp.
Naw they really can't, even befoee this they didn't do jack imo.
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Re: Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

Post by TheWood » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:10 am

cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:06 am
TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:02 am
cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:00 am


Ya callin me dumb? Cause I believe those orbs never stopped me and I took the hill the anyway.
Absolutely not calling you, it's just that sometimes a couple of those balls can kill if you don't have 1k hp.
Naw they really can't, even befoee this they didn't do jack imo.
They can at least do some damage and make killing easier.

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Re: Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

Post by cinos » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:26 am

TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:10 am
cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:06 am
TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:02 am
Absolutely not calling you, it's just that sometimes a couple of those balls can kill if you don't have 1k hp.
Naw they really can't, even befoee this they didn't do jack imo.
They can at least do some damage and make killing easier.
Bro they have THE most rigid pattern, good luck having anyone touch enough of em at once.
I insist on my thread making it better, I have not found any actually good things about bounce besides "ehhh it KINDA helps?".
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Re: Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

Post by forumMikel » Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:37 pm

cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:26 am
TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:10 am
cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:06 am


Naw they really can't, even befoee this they didn't do jack imo.
They can at least do some damage and make killing easier.
Bro they have THE most rigid pattern, good luck having anyone touch enough of em at once.
I insist on my thread making it better, I have not found any actually good things about bounce besides "ehhh it KINDA helps?".
ur an absolute tank, 6-10 of these cheese puffs in pvp kill me instantly
send me money or something i want to buy chips or some fries, idk

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Re: Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

Post by troopas » Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:49 pm

cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:06 am
TheWood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:02 am
cinos wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:00 am


Ya callin me dumb? Cause I believe those orbs never stopped me and I took the hill the anyway.
Absolutely not calling you, it's just that sometimes a couple of those balls can kill if you don't have 1k hp.
Naw they really can't, even befoee this they didn't do jack imo.
Well I mean you're a level 117 warrior so the threat level isn't the same for you
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Re: Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

Post by troopas » Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:10 pm

bump because bounce rain is worthless
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Re: Replace bounce arrow with hoard rain

Post by GonDup » Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:56 pm

troopas wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:10 pm
bump because bounce rain is worthless
Seriously bouncing rain is just terrible, Please rework it and don't just make the damage increase or something, Cause the problem is the balls never hit anyone.
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