The future of Eliatopia (is not too bright)

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Re: The future of Eliatopia (is not too bright)

Post by forumMikel » Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:28 am

Robby wrote:
Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:15 pm
The tl;dr here is that Eliatopia needs to make money, and purely cosmetics alone aren't cutting it.
ive read everything you said, but just quoted the tldr because the quote will take too long, just do very simple devlog videos with mild editing of whats going on in the game. be entertaining, make people look at you and the game something different. something they think they wanna play

as ive said, the dude named goodgis has got a team of developers and alot of people dropping in money just to help him better quality stuff in less than a year because they're entertaining and make just how gamedevs go on about their day and games videos.

i dont have much to say but like, try making simple videos, get some hype goin in the games name.

subscriptions? idk give it a try, people will complain yeah sure. but yk, try. subscriptions give players cool looking stuff idk examples for
donations? PROBABLY wont work, but hey. just try. drop it in in the login screen and put "everything helps :)" or somethin

cosmetics:add community cosmetic suggestions like how madam got the colorizer in game. maybe a cosmetic set pack that changes every month? daily emerald shop rotation that gives out random purchasables or something

cheap goofy features that just boost stuff you do in game, not in particular p2w. example, an item to make you climb ladders faster. a whole 20 ems/a dollar just to make you climb faster? thats my only example for payvault stuff, probably will suggest more but just try adding really simple dumb things to the payvault for a reasonable price

my words arent really well organized, but the simple things like subscriptions, donations and other simple things to add are worth the try. yeah theyll complain so eh

the thing that i think thats making you not get alot of money is trading, its a really cool feature, yeah. but trading also just kinda make people not buy stuff from the payvault, like how peopel are buying ems from other people and buying emeralds from other people instead of buying actual sutff from the payvault. there are major eliatopia bulk sellers selling ems/cash for cheap. like theres people selling 50 ems for a buck, so that makes the 20ems 1 dollar offer in the payvault rendering it kinda useless

the only thing i personally want from elia is devlogs, advertise it through a paid advertisement on yt and that video should be a really high quality edited video and it should bring people in, explain passively that you/the game needs money to survive, drop links below to donate or whatsoever.
send me money or something i want to buy chips or some fries, idk

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Re: The future of Eliatopia (is not too bright)

Post by Flashlight237 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:44 am

Robby wrote:
Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:15 pm

billboard rental: 0.6%
shout: 3.7%
guild flag: 5.2%
skill reset: 12.8%
colorize: 7.89%
cosmetic change: 3.3%
custom menu: 3.4%
more items: 11.8%
points reset: 24.7%
guild global XP: 15.6%
emoji pack: 2.3%
vendor insurance: 0.1%
drum kit: 1.21879
vendor promotion: 0.05%
more friends: 0.9%
bank items: 4%
dances: 1.7%
Okay, so I can try and address what I can for the low-balls here.

Billboard Rentals: I have suggested another expansion to billboards, which includes an Undo Button, a Paint Bucket Tool, and five more colors.: https://www.eliatopia.com/forum/viewtop ... ard#p48436

Many people would prefer colors to be fully customizable, but I've seen even Kingdom Hearts having to resort to limited color palettes for things that allow you to color customizable stuff.

More billboards will work too since, let's face it, billboards are the only truly limited Payvault item in the game, as even Inventory Slots are purchasable by a single player at any time unlike billboards which are basically open season.

Custom Menu: Switchable fonts for the UI buttons would help its case. For instance, I regularly use Samdan for concept art and monster demonstrations, so the UI can take Samdan font if need be.

Emoji Pack: Well, you can add in the Pensive emoji everyone's all the rage about. Also... You know how Newgrounds have different forum icon packs? Why not have more emoji packs? For instance...

Elia-Human: This pack allows you to use emojis based on the Mokujin-looking humans in the game. For example...
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This Poggers thing.
Eliatopian: This pack allows you to use emojis based on the green bleach-drinkers in the game.
Monsters: This pack allows you to use emojis based on the monsters in the game. For example...
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Bosses: heck with it, Ooze Horror, Lumbercore, Moonchyllus, Cionic Organism, and Multiplex Cortex should all have their fair share of emojis. For instance...:
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Nostalgia: Emojis based on games like Fruit Bouncer, that game with the mecha centipedes, and Helmet Heroes would go here.

Okay, now that I got that out of the way...

Drum Kit: More instruments would be the best option here. A keyboard would be the easiest to program, as there's already an in-game example used for a key code, but acoustic guitar works too.

Vendor Insurance and Vendor Promotion: Really, with the marketplace forums and DIscord being a thing, what's the point in these two items existing?

More Friends: This could be buyable multiple times like Inventory Slots.

Dances: I had considered The Worm and The Robot as two more dances. Other than that, I genuinely don't know what to do about this one.

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Re: The future of Eliatopia (is not too bright)

Post by troopas » Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:47 am

Flashlight237 wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:44 am
Robby wrote:
Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:15 pm

billboard rental: 0.6%
shout: 3.7%
guild flag: 5.2%
skill reset: 12.8%
colorize: 7.89%
cosmetic change: 3.3%
custom menu: 3.4%
more items: 11.8%
points reset: 24.7%
guild global XP: 15.6%
emoji pack: 2.3%
vendor insurance: 0.1%
drum kit: 1.21879
vendor promotion: 0.05%
more friends: 0.9%
bank items: 4%
dances: 1.7%
Okay, so I can try and address what I can for the low-balls here.

Billboard Rentals: I have suggested another expansion to billboards, which includes an Undo Button, a Paint Bucket Tool, and five more colors.: https://www.eliatopia.com/forum/viewtop ... ard#p48436

Many people would prefer colors to be fully customizable, but I've seen even Kingdom Hearts having to resort to limited color palettes for things that allow you to color customizable stuff.

More billboards will work too since, let's face it, billboards are the only truly limited Payvault item in the game, as even Inventory Slots are purchasable by a single player at any time unlike billboards which are basically open season.

Custom Menu: Switchable fonts for the UI buttons would help its case. For instance, I regularly use Samdan for concept art and monster demonstrations, so the UI can take Samdan font if need be.

Emoji Pack: Well, you can add in the Pensive emoji everyone's all the rage about. Also... You know how Newgrounds have different forum icon packs? Why not have more emoji packs? For instance...

Elia-Human: This pack allows you to use emojis based on the Mokujin-looking humans in the game. For example...
Image
This Poggers thing.
Eliatopian: This pack allows you to use emojis based on the green bleach-drinkers in the game.
Monsters: This pack allows you to use emojis based on the monsters in the game. For example...
Image
Bosses: heck with it, Ooze Horror, Lumbercore, Moonchyllus, Cionic Organism, and Multiplex Cortex should all have their fair share of emojis. For instance...:
Image
Nostalgia: Emojis based on games like Fruit Bouncer, that game with the mecha centipedes, and Helmet Heroes would go here.

Okay, now that I got that out of the way...

Drum Kit: More instruments would be the best option here. A keyboard would be the easiest to program, as there's already an in-game example used for a key code, but acoustic guitar works too.

Vendor Insurance and Vendor Promotion: Really, with the marketplace forums and DIscord being a thing, what's the point in these two items existing?

More Friends: This could be buyable multiple times like Inventory Slots.

Dances: I had considered The Worm and The Robot as two more dances. Other than that, I genuinely don't know what to do about this one.

1. Absolute support for this

2. Neutral a bit iffy on it

3/4. To add onto this, make it so when typing :pensive: in any chat, it will enter the pensive emoji or any of the others one because let's be real, as of right now emoji pack is more of something used by people being d*ckheads

5. Nothing wrong with adding these so why not? (Except maybe Moonchyllus; it's already suggestive enough for the game rated E)

6. Yeah, but Robby already said this doesn't sell well at all and putting in more work for this would probably be a waste of time in the end

7. Honestly yeah it's basically useless. Using emeralds to pay for it is dumb which is probably why it isn't used at all.

8. It already exists and functions like inv slots? Am I missing something?

9. Same thing for drums, it's not a very pv seller
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Re: The future of Eliatopia (is not too bright)

Post by forumMikel » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:32 am

troopas wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:47 am
3/4. To add onto this, make it so when typing :pensive: in any chat, it will enter the pensive emoji or any of the others one because let's be real, as of right now emoji pack is more of something used by people being d*ckheads
the only thing my eyes see
mfs who use emoji the ones who trashtalk you or either used by someone who steals ur kills then spams emoji
send me money or something i want to buy chips or some fries, idk

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Re: The future of Eliatopia (is not too bright)

Post by cinos » Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:06 am

What if vendor promotion instead made it so an item was in all vendors at the same time?
heck, maybe it does and I never noticed, but it's an uh, attempt.
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Re: The future of Eliatopia (is not too bright)

Post by Flashlight237 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:11 am

cinos wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:06 am
What if vendor promotion instead made it so an item was in all vendors at the same time?
heck, maybe it does and I never noticed, but it's an uh, attempt.
You're just as stuck on that as I am. My literal one idea for Vendor Insurance was the insured item getting a guaranteed drone drop (as opposed to 20% as usual).

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Re: The future of Eliatopia (is not too bright)

Post by zienice!!! » Mon May 30, 2022 11:08 pm

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Re: The future of Eliatopia (is not too bright)

Post by zienice!!! » Mon May 30, 2022 11:09 pm

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