Drone Transportation

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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by CrazyVanilla » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:01 am

troopas wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:22 pm
CrazyVanilla wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:57 pm
troopas wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:29 pm
Dont add teleportation! If it gets added people will move onto more p2w things. Only add more shortcuts into the game because it's the best way to deal with this.
Sometimes, actually, most of the time, I'm just amazed by how your brain works, or more accurately, how it consistently fails to work. In what world is area teleportation P2W? Or how on earth would it make Robby add P2W features in the future?
Thanks for feeling the need to make a condescending reply to what I said instead of actually providing any actual criticism to me. Really says a lot if you have to feel the need to insult me just because you don't like my idea. Now this is a very interesting thing for you to say to me considering that my past 2 suggestions, well believe it or not, you support. So are you just insulting me because for the past 1-2 months you were being nice to me and forgot you were supposed to hate me for literally no reason, or was this because a simple suggestion got you so mad that you couldn't hold back on being a hotdog. Seriously, speak of bipolar disorder.

Anyway since this was too difficult of a concept for you too understand how this could lead Robby into adding more P2W options, and how this is P2W to begin with. #1, you actually get an advantage over other players with this suggestion added, not only can you bypass time restrictions for shops but you can also completely skip pvp zones and based off your support of pvp, is a bit hypocritical don't you think? This is also ignoring the fact that this could completely break the storyline to the game and make it so you can skip things (Yes you can add ways to prevent this from happening but I'm looking at this at face value.)

You can also already argue that P2W is already a thing because of item storage for ATM's and the inventory. This is actually a very good point which confuses me as to way you simply didn't mention it but rather, again, chose to insult me for no reason. The ATM slots were unnecessary for the game to me and the amount of extra inventory slots you get should really have -1 row because of just the insane amount of loot you can get now but again, it's just my opinion and I wouldn't dare suggest doing that now.

But how does this lead to Robby adding more P2W things? Simple. If this is to get added as a simple teleporting system then people who have spent their entire lives begging for this to be added will finally move onto more things, like 65% resale or 3x guild coins (which some already have to be fair) which are objectively bad things. If enough people though suggest this Robby probably would at least consider adding these in with enough community support (even if YOU don't necessarily believe it should be)

I'm going to end this off by saying the way I look at Eliatopia and what I want is fundamentally different than what you want, you lashing out for no reason just proves you think only your opinion needs to be considered and will put down other people who don't agree. You can come back with an essay like I did disproving me but at least keep it civil.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by troopas » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:02 am

CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:01 am
troopas wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:22 pm
CrazyVanilla wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:57 pm


Sometimes, actually, most of the time, I'm just amazed by how your brain works, or more accurately, how it consistently fails to work. In what world is area teleportation P2W? Or how on earth would it make Robby add P2W features in the future?
Thanks for feeling the need to make a condescending reply to what I said instead of actually providing any actual criticism to me. Really says a lot if you have to feel the need to insult me just because you don't like my idea. Now this is a very interesting thing for you to say to me considering that my past 2 suggestions, well believe it or not, you support. So are you just insulting me because for the past 1-2 months you were being nice to me and forgot you were supposed to hate me for literally no reason, or was this because a simple suggestion got you so mad that you couldn't hold back on being a hotdog. Seriously, speak of bipolar disorder.

Anyway since this was too difficult of a concept for you too understand how this could lead Robby into adding more P2W options, and how this is P2W to begin with. #1, you actually get an advantage over other players with this suggestion added, not only can you bypass time restrictions for shops but you can also completely skip pvp zones and based off your support of pvp, is a bit hypocritical don't you think? This is also ignoring the fact that this could completely break the storyline to the game and make it so you can skip things (Yes you can add ways to prevent this from happening but I'm looking at this at face value.)

You can also already argue that P2W is already a thing because of item storage for ATM's and the inventory. This is actually a very good point which confuses me as to way you simply didn't mention it but rather, again, chose to insult me for no reason. The ATM slots were unnecessary for the game to me and the amount of extra inventory slots you get should really have -1 row because of just the insane amount of loot you can get now but again, it's just my opinion and I wouldn't dare suggest doing that now.

But how does this lead to Robby adding more P2W things? Simple. If this is to get added as a simple teleporting system then people who have spent their entire lives begging for this to be added will finally move onto more things, like 65% resale or 3x guild coins (which some already have to be fair) which are objectively bad things. If enough people though suggest this Robby probably would at least consider adding these in with enough community support (even if YOU don't necessarily believe it should be)

I'm going to end this off by saying the way I look at Eliatopia and what I want is fundamentally different than what you want, you lashing out for no reason just proves you think only your opinion needs to be considered and will put down other people who don't agree. You can come back with an essay like I did disproving me but at least keep it civil.
Convenience is not an advantage. Try again next time.
Ok 3x guild exp when? Will be convenient buying new gears.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by cinos » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:55 am

CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:01 am
troopas wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:22 pm
CrazyVanilla wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:57 pm


Sometimes, actually, most of the time, I'm just amazed by how your brain works, or more accurately, how it consistently fails to work. In what world is area teleportation P2W? Or how on earth would it make Robby add P2W features in the future?
Thanks for feeling the need to make a condescending reply to what I said instead of actually providing any actual criticism to me. Really says a lot if you have to feel the need to insult me just because you don't like my idea. Now this is a very interesting thing for you to say to me considering that my past 2 suggestions, well believe it or not, you support. So are you just insulting me because for the past 1-2 months you were being nice to me and forgot you were supposed to hate me for literally no reason, or was this because a simple suggestion got you so mad that you couldn't hold back on being a hotdog. Seriously, speak of bipolar disorder.

Anyway since this was too difficult of a concept for you too understand how this could lead Robby into adding more P2W options, and how this is P2W to begin with. #1, you actually get an advantage over other players with this suggestion added, not only can you bypass time restrictions for shops but you can also completely skip pvp zones and based off your support of pvp, is a bit hypocritical don't you think? This is also ignoring the fact that this could completely break the storyline to the game and make it so you can skip things (Yes you can add ways to prevent this from happening but I'm looking at this at face value.)

You can also already argue that P2W is already a thing because of item storage for ATM's and the inventory. This is actually a very good point which confuses me as to way you simply didn't mention it but rather, again, chose to insult me for no reason. The ATM slots were unnecessary for the game to me and the amount of extra inventory slots you get should really have -1 row because of just the insane amount of loot you can get now but again, it's just my opinion and I wouldn't dare suggest doing that now.

But how does this lead to Robby adding more P2W things? Simple. If this is to get added as a simple teleporting system then people who have spent their entire lives begging for this to be added will finally move onto more things, like 65% resale or 3x guild coins (which some already have to be fair) which are objectively bad things. If enough people though suggest this Robby probably would at least consider adding these in with enough community support (even if YOU don't necessarily believe it should be)

I'm going to end this off by saying the way I look at Eliatopia and what I want is fundamentally different than what you want, you lashing out for no reason just proves you think only your opinion needs to be considered and will put down other people who don't agree. You can come back with an essay like I did disproving me but at least keep it civil.
Convenience is not an advantage. Try again next time.
Convenience my αss, it's a HUGE objective advantage, given to someone because they simply have more money than those who don't, ALSO it ruins the world, it makes areas feel less like worlds and more like map xml files, and it quite literally did ruin the HH map, intentionally so people would buy teleportation.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by Zeltonn » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:44 am

CrazyVanilla wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:39 pm
So, the trek from Alion City to the Shroom Borough Town is quite a long one, and a shortcut could definitely be of use. I think it'd be cool if instead of a shortcut through additional areas, Lil Nary can expand his business and start offering transportation drones.

These drones would start by just offering transportation from Alion City -> the Town of Shroom Borough, and vice versa, but could always offer more routes in the future. It would cost 15k for a one-way trip, making it a small way to take money out of the economy, while not being a required mechanic. While riding on the drone, you'd get some nice scenic views of the areas you are passing over, for a trip that should probably take somewhere around 30 seconds to complete. Of course, in order to purchase a ride, you'd need to have completed all the quests leading to the Town of Shroom Borough first.
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this is fricking awesome SUPPORT!!
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by Flashlight237 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:44 am

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with Troopas and Cinos here. I mean any time I've made suggestions I fear would be pay-to-win, I get the sinking feeling that maybe it was a bad idea after taking the risk to post it. Troopas made a pretty good statement as to why you shouldn't support P2W items, especially, as Cinos said, those that provide objective advantages.

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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by TheWood » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:31 am

Robby wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:07 pm
Thanks for the suggestion. I was thinking about adding something like this in soon. It'd most likely be a payvault thing, since I think it's something that would sell well without being too pay-to-win. That being said, I'm still thinking about how I would want to make it. Such as, whether or not a player could teleport to any area they want by clicking on an area in the map, or only certain areas (such as towns), or whether the teleportation would be instant, or an animation would play, or whether the player should be limited to a certain number of teleports a day, etc. I'm curious on what players think.
Don't add teleport, especially for emeralds :|

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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by cinos » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:20 am

Robby wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:07 pm
Thanks for the suggestion. I was thinking about adding something like this in soon. It'd most likely be a payvault thing, since I think it's something that would sell well without being too pay-to-win. That being said, I'm still thinking about how I would want to make it. Such as, whether or not a player could teleport to any area they want by clicking on an area in the map, or only certain areas (such as towns), or whether the teleportation would be instant, or an animation would play, or whether the player should be limited to a certain number of teleports a day, etc. I'm curious on what players think.

As a side note, I went ahead and added 4 shortcuts into the map for next update, that will help create a one-way bridge between a few areas for slightly faster travelling.
That's gonna be a major no from me chief, add trains, add ANYTHING other than a payvault item.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by Zeltonn » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:28 pm

Flashlight237 wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:44 am
Sorry, but I'm gonna have to side with Troopas and Cinos here. I mean any time I've made suggestions I fear would be pay-to-win, I get the sinking feeling that maybe it was a bad idea after taking the risk to post it. Troopas made a pretty good statement as to why you shouldn't support P2W items, especially, as Cinos said, those that provide objective advantages.
I'm now just realising, I never read this thing properly... Meaning, Teleporting is better than drone trans. I didn't know untill Troop and Number 5 said it
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by Zeltonn » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:30 pm

Robby wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:07 pm
Thanks for the suggestion. I was thinking about adding something like this in soon. It'd most likely be a payvault thing, since I think it's something that would sell well without being too pay-to-win. That being said, I'm still thinking about how I would want to make it. Such as, whether or not a player could teleport to any area they want by clicking on an area in the map, or only certain areas (such as towns), or whether the teleportation would be instant, or an animation would play, or whether the player should be limited to a certain number of teleports a day, etc. I'm curious on what players think.

As a side note, I went ahead and added 4 shortcuts into the map for next update, that will help create a one-way bridge between a few areas for slightly faster travelling.
Excuse me, NO PAVAULT AND NO PAY TO WIN. IM actually getting fed up of u putting certain things as payvault, WHY CANT SOMETHING BE FOR ELIA COINS FOR ONCE????
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by CrazyVanilla » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:27 pm

cinos wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:55 am

Convenience my αss, it's a HUGE objective advantage, given to someone because they simply have more money than those who don't, ALSO it ruins the world, it makes areas feel less like worlds and more like map xml files, and it quite literally did ruin the HH map, intentionally so people would buy teleportation.
Teleporting to cities / towns is not an advantage at all, lol. Anyone who is saying that clearly does not know what P2W means, or what an advantage is. There are 2 objectives to this game, level up, and make money. Yes, if you have more money, you SHOULD be better equipped for the game than others? Using your logic, there should be no equipment, because 99.99% of players DO NOT have $60m+ to max out a set, which actually IS a very big advantage. Or actually, Fitness should be removed because that makes running 20%+ faster!!!!

Teleporting to cities does not change either of those objectives, and with emeralds being a tradable currency, anyone can purchase them without spending real life money on the game, which means it's not P2W at all. If the objective of Eliatopia was to race to different areas against other players, then sure, but it's not. Also if YOU feel that it ruins the game world, don't buy it, because guess what, that is a personal opinion, which only affects your gameplay. It's literally that simple. Running around the entire map whenever I need to go somewhere or meet someone in this game is horrible for me, it literally prevents me from playing sometimes because I'd have to run across the map and back in order to do something.


To anyone else who thinks the current payvault or even adding this to the payvault would be P2W, you are dumb, grow up and stop complaining because you don't grind and can't afford something that provides no advantage to anyone at all, its pure convenience. One of the 2 main objectives of the game is to make money, don't complain because you don't put the effort into doing that.
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