Drone Transportation

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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by troopas » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:52 pm

CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:27 pm
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Convenience my αss, it's a HUGE objective advantage, given to someone because they simply have more money than those who don't, ALSO it ruins the world, it makes areas feel less like worlds and more like map xml files, and it quite literally did ruin the HH map, intentionally so people would buy teleportation.
Teleporting to cities / towns is not an advantage at all, lol. Anyone who is saying that clearly does not know what P2W means, or what an advantage is. There are 2 objectives to this game, level up, and make money. Yes, if you have more money, you SHOULD be better equipped for the game than others? Using your logic, there should be no equipment, because 99.99% of players DO NOT have $60m+ to max out a set, which actually IS a very big advantage. Or actually, Fitness should be removed because that makes running 20%+ faster!!!!

Teleporting to cities does not change either of those objectives, and with emeralds being a tradable currency, anyone can purchase them without spending real life money on the game, which means it's not P2W at all. If the objective of Eliatopia was to race to different areas against other players, then sure, but it's not. Also if YOU feel that it ruins the game world, don't buy it, because guess what, that is a personal opinion, which only affects your gameplay. It's literally that simple. Running around the entire map whenever I need to go somewhere or meet someone in this game is horrible for me, it literally prevents me from playing sometimes because I'd have to run across the map and back in order to do something.


To anyone else who thinks the current payvault or even adding this to the payvault would be P2W, you are dumb, grow up and stop complaining because you don't grind and can't afford something that provides no advantage to anyone at all, its pure convenience. One of the 2 main objectives of the game is to make money, don't complain because you don't put the effort into doing that.
Again, you're literally insulting people for not agreeing with you. Grow up. Your opinion isn't better than anyone else's.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by bubster » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:00 pm

Robby wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:07 pm
Thanks for the suggestion. I was thinking about adding something like this in soon. It'd most likely be a payvault thing, since I think it's something that would sell well without being too pay-to-win. That being said, I'm still thinking about how I would want to make it. Such as, whether or not a player could teleport to any area they want by clicking on an area in the map, or only certain areas (such as towns), or whether the teleportation would be instant, or an animation would play, or whether the player should be limited to a certain number of teleports a day, etc. I'm curious on what players think.

As a side note, I went ahead and added 4 shortcuts into the map for next update, that will help create a one-way bridge between a few areas for slightly faster travelling.
What happened to teleport not being added?

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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by cinos » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:07 pm

CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:27 pm
cinos wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:55 am

Convenience my αss, it's a HUGE objective advantage, given to someone because they simply have more money than those who don't, ALSO it ruins the world, it makes areas feel less like worlds and more like map xml files, and it quite literally did ruin the HH map, intentionally so people would buy teleportation.
Teleporting to cities / towns is not an advantage at all, lol. Anyone who is saying that clearly does not know what P2W means, or what an advantage is. There are 2 objectives to this game, level up, and make money. Yes, if you have more money, you SHOULD be better equipped for the game than others? Using your logic, there should be no equipment, because 99.99% of players DO NOT have $60m+ to max out a set, which actually IS a very big advantage. Or actually, Fitness should be removed because that makes running 20%+ faster!!!!

Teleporting to cities does not change either of those objectives, and with emeralds being a tradable currency, anyone can purchase them without spending real life money on the game, which means it's not P2W at all. If the objective of Eliatopia was to race to different areas against other players, then sure, but it's not. Also if YOU feel that it ruins the game world, don't buy it, because guess what, that is a personal opinion, which only affects your gameplay. It's literally that simple. Running around the entire map whenever I need to go somewhere or meet someone in this game is horrible for me, it literally prevents me from playing sometimes because I'd have to run across the map and back in order to do something.


To anyone else who thinks the current payvault or even adding this to the payvault would be P2W, you are dumb, grow up and stop complaining because you don't grind and can't afford something that provides no advantage to anyone at all, its pure convenience. One of the 2 main objectives of the game is to make money, don't complain because you don't put the effort into doing that.
>teleportation is not p2w
>does not want trains that are available for everyone, instead wants teleportation that costs emeralds
Yeah, okay buddy, remind me to not ask you for financial advice.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by CrazyVanilla » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:16 pm

cinos wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:07 pm
>teleportation is not p2w
>does not want trains that are available for everyone, instead wants teleportation that costs emeralds
Yeah, okay buddy, remind me to not ask you for financial advice.
Please quote where I said I didn't want trains? My suggestion thread, that you are commenting on, is quite literally the same thing as the train concept except just using a drone instead. How this relates to financial advice, well, gotta say you've stumped me there, but I'll agree, you shouldn't ask someone who isn't a certified financial advisor for financial advice!
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by cinos » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:57 pm

CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:16 pm
cinos wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:07 pm
>teleportation is not p2w
>does not want trains that are available for everyone, instead wants teleportation that costs emeralds
Yeah, okay buddy, remind me to not ask you for financial advice.
Please quote where I said I didn't want trains? My suggestion thread, that you are commenting on, is quite literally the same thing as the train concept except just using a drone instead. How this relates to financial advice, well, gotta say you've stumped me there, but I'll agree, you shouldn't ask someone who isn't a certified financial advisor for financial advice!
Saying teleportation is not P2W means you rather have that over trains. Just go ahead and ask for books already, jesus.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by CrazyVanilla » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:17 pm

cinos wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:57 pm
CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:16 pm
cinos wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:07 pm
>teleportation is not p2w
>does not want trains that are available for everyone, instead wants teleportation that costs emeralds
Yeah, okay buddy, remind me to not ask you for financial advice.
Please quote where I said I didn't want trains? My suggestion thread, that you are commenting on, is quite literally the same thing as the train concept except just using a drone instead. How this relates to financial advice, well, gotta say you've stumped me there, but I'll agree, you shouldn't ask someone who isn't a certified financial advisor for financial advice!
Saying teleportation is not P2W means you rather have that over trains. Just go ahead and ask for books already, jesus.
Thank you for attempting to clarify what I mean, to myself, but actually, if you can even believe it, that's actually not true! Is it not possible to have both? Or just something you don't have the capability to understand because whenever anything is suggested that has even the slightest relation to something in Helmet Heroes you freak out and immediately accuse the person of wanting to afk their 100k power pet to level up in Eliatopia. But yeah, I definitely see the relation that town/city teleportation and increasing your stats to an infinite level using coins have :roll:

But yeah, to answer my own question, it is most definitely possible to have both. Crazy right? The fact that you could have faster travel for everyone using a train, or drone, or whatever other vehicle, but then ALSO have a slightly more convenient way than that to travel via a payvault perk is amazing. Almost like, I dunno, a private flight vs commercial flight. Flying in general is a major convenience, and really a necessity to everyone, and everyone has the opportunity to fly via a commercial flight because of it, but a private flight is just that much more convenient for those who can and chose to afford it.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by cinos » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:26 pm

CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:17 pm
cinos wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:57 pm
CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:16 pm


Please quote where I said I didn't want trains? My suggestion thread, that you are commenting on, is quite literally the same thing as the train concept except just using a drone instead. How this relates to financial advice, well, gotta say you've stumped me there, but I'll agree, you shouldn't ask someone who isn't a certified financial advisor for financial advice!
Saying teleportation is not P2W means you rather have that over trains. Just go ahead and ask for books already, jesus.
Thank you for attempting to clarify what I mean, to myself, but actually, if you can even believe it, that's actually not true! Is it not possible to have both? Or just something you don't have the capability to understand because whenever anything is suggested that has even the slightest relation to something in Helmet Heroes you freak out and immediately accuse the person of wanting to afk their 100k power pet to level up in Eliatopia. But yeah, I definitely see the relation that town/city teleportation and increasing your stats to an infinite level using coins have :roll:

But yeah, to answer my own question, it is most definitely possible to have both. Crazy right? The fact that you could have faster travel for everyone using a train, or drone, or whatever other vehicle, but then ALSO have a slightly more convenient way than that to travel via a payvault perk is amazing. Almost like, I dunno, a private flight vs commercial flight. Flying in general is a major convenience, and really a necessity to everyone, and everyone has the opportunity to fly via a commercial flight because of it, but a private flight is just that much more convenient for those who can and chose to afford it.
See vanilla, maybe you weren't always here, but robby never adds "both". He adds one feature, and then an objectively better version years later (example: chicken set was added before the accessories).

Also, not even going to humour your asinine thought process of "oh it's fine, the plebs can have the train while I have my sweet sweet payvault perk", that is quite literally pay to win. All the idiots get to keep using the slower one, while YOU get the good one because you paid cash.

Ideas like this should never even be considered, they are fundamentally, by design, meant to create an inbalance.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by troopas » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:59 pm

CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:17 pm
cinos wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:57 pm
CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:16 pm


Please quote where I said I didn't want trains? My suggestion thread, that you are commenting on, is quite literally the same thing as the train concept except just using a drone instead. How this relates to financial advice, well, gotta say you've stumped me there, but I'll agree, you shouldn't ask someone who isn't a certified financial advisor for financial advice!
Saying teleportation is not P2W means you rather have that over trains. Just go ahead and ask for books already, jesus.
Thank you for attempting to clarify what I mean, to myself, but actually, if you can even believe it, that's actually not true! Is it not possible to have both? Or just something you don't have the capability to understand because whenever anything is suggested that has even the slightest relation to something in Helmet Heroes you freak out and immediately accuse the person of wanting to afk their 100k power pet to level up in Eliatopia. But yeah, I definitely see the relation that town/city teleportation and increasing your stats to an infinite level using coins have :roll:

But yeah, to answer my own question, it is most definitely possible to have both. Crazy right? The fact that you could have faster travel for everyone using a train, or drone, or whatever other vehicle, but then ALSO have a slightly more convenient way than that to travel via a payvault perk is amazing. Almost like, I dunno, a private flight vs commercial flight. Flying in general is a major convenience, and really a necessity to everyone, and everyone has the opportunity to fly via a commercial flight because of it, but a private flight is just that much more convenient for those who can and chose to afford it.
Reading what you have to say is one of the most hard things I could ever force myself to do. You talk with such egotism towards yourself that you arent even capable of building a personality with your terrible writing. You're just a marck Zuckerberg with the way you say things and quite literally just a robot. But unlike a robot you make mistakes i.e making this thread.

If cinos flashlight me and more can agree your idea is shit then maybe YOU should take some times to actually think about your own suggestion and realize its horrible.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by CrazyVanilla » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:23 pm

troopas wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:59 pm
Reading what you have to say is one of the most hard things I could ever force myself to do. You talk with such egotism towards yourself that you arent even capable of building a personality with your terrible writing. You're just a marck Zuckerberg with the way you say things and quite literally just a robot. But unlike a robot you make mistakes i.e making this thread.

If cinos flashlight me and more can agree your idea is shit then maybe YOU should take some times to actually think about your own suggestion and realize its horrible.
Name any reason at all that Transporation is P2W, no one has. Also, my opinion, based on fact, is superior to yours, based on nothing, or cinos', based on "HH bad", sorry to inform you.

So, you don't support the train? Because my suggestion, is literally the train except a drone, lol.
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Re: Drone Transportation

Post by troopas » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:43 pm

CrazyVanilla wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:23 pm
troopas wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:59 pm
Reading what you have to say is one of the most hard things I could ever force myself to do. You talk with such egotism towards yourself that you arent even capable of building a personality with your terrible writing. You're just a marck Zuckerberg with the way you say things and quite literally just a robot. But unlike a robot you make mistakes i.e making this thread.

If cinos flashlight me and more can agree your idea is shit then maybe YOU should take some times to actually think about your own suggestion and realize its horrible.
Name any reason at all that Transporation is P2W, no one has. Also, my opinion, based on fact, is superior to yours, based on nothing, or cinos', based on "HH bad", sorry to inform you.

So, you don't support the train? Because my suggestion, is literally the train except a drone, lol.
We've already told you why. You've just chosen to ignore it.

I also cant tell if you're being sarcastic when you mention hh or you're just so obsessed with yourself you cant even possibly accept that your idea is unwanted.

Also I didnt comment on the train because cinos actually made a thread on the train which actually goes into depth about its function other than scenic views and getting to point a to point b and also trains are already confirmed for the game. Theres nothing for me to not support if the trains are going to he built into the story.
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